I love this idea! Unfortunately you may want to take whatever you can get I t order to get out of there. Be cautious with them. Also, is there someone you can ask to be your proofreading buddy? It seemed unlikely you would delete dissenting comments, but equally surprising that there arent more of them. The thing that helps me is really setting the document aside for a good 20 minutes and coming back with fresh eyes. Go to community college and work toward a degree. It may not be copied without the written permission of Ripoff Report. Read it aloud to yourself if you can, or cultivate a trusted colleague to trade presentations with so you have a second set of eyes. Because of my experience, if I saw he/they, I would use he. Dominic Proctor runs the worlds largest media agency, GroupM, which itself is the media arm of the advertising agency holding company behemoth, WPP. As with Alisons answer, those are also good points. Thank you for your time and advice. Your HR person is awful not just for gossiping about peoples educational levels but for being so nasty about it. I think Ill reply with a thank you for reaching out, but not looking to move right now. Would you mind a quick look at this for a second pair of eyes? and encourage that person to ask you for the same in return next time they have a big deadline. This sounds like a similar complaint. Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. Customer acquisition programs aimed at small and medium-sized businesses match client products and solutions to customers' unique needs. If you were using he pronouns with a name like Susan it could come across that way I walk in for my first day and find one girl I interviewed with who had colored hair, another guy who started at the beginning of that week who was heavy with a big beard and really quiet along with 4 others who were transfers. This really helps to spot not only errors, but omissions as well. They teach recruits how to brainwash and manipulate people. I get where youre coming from, but they is misgendering for plenty of people. Congratulations on getting out. Get backup. Doubt there are any dragons lurking in the office. Proofreading. Cydcor also has a contract that each ICL must sign with rules of how they can conduct their office. Sign in. I was close. and not looking to advance any further up the food chain. Susan they is not something that would stand out to me, and if it would, I would judge it as deliberate, thoughtful writing. its terrifying dude, look at the cydcor guy in this thread who's trying to defend it. I just want to second Alisons suggestion about retail. heres some free help preparing for job interviews. And it doesnt cost you anything. If you want a college degree, its an option! Ive struggled with this too and looking back, the experiences where I just wanted to get it over with or felt more anxious than expected about presenting, took place in fairly unhealthy working environments. was the most overwhelming week. Long story short, I went out to eat on a Friday night with my boss, and he continued to show me how awesome these "national conference" trips were through several YouTube videos on his Android smartphone. I always find stuff. Tell them specifically that you need them to point out errors of assumptions, context, unwritten history. Somehow several pairs of eyes can look over something and not see a glaring embarrassing mistake in a title or heading; they often get read over. 12. Although this company wasted two weeks of my time, I will never make the same mistake in the future. Where I work, there is a known financial services company that hires general counsel at super high rates right out of law school. I have a problem with careless mistakes. What Cydcor's scam businesses refer to as an "owner"he or she is the one actually running the businesses'/location's scam. Who's crazy enough to start this website? The HR experience is learning how to interview dozens of people daily and ensnare people into your psychological sales cult. Agreed. If you need more time, decide which of the suggestions offered here will work best for you, then factor those processes into the amount of time it typically takes you to work on your presentations, and bring all of that info to your conversation with your boss. (Universal Design isnt just to help people with disabilities). Good for fandom, bad for career advice :), I just go for the dragon age stuff. People mocked me too. Actually, as far as the first round interviews go they are just looking to fill 2nd round interview slots in for their leaders. I work in government and everything (save for SS#s and banking info) in our file is public knowledge so Im not as disturbed by that the info is being kept private but the manner in which she is sharing this and the vitrol/mocking that is surrounding it is definitly wrong and should be brought to the attention of higher-ups. Who knows how things will be in the next few years. Why on earth would they take on a commitment like that for no reason? If youre sort of a trusted personal mentor figure who they came out to early because they feel comfortable with you, yeah, Id check in. What does Cydcor do? The student LW4 describes uses he/they pronouns. Oh, she does the same job but has no degree? One strategy Ive found that really helps me is to review everything in the reverse order of the way you originally did it. So I head out to this "field" and you know what happened? The non-binary folks Ive known who give multiple sets of pronouns (he/him or they/them) generally dont mean you need to alternate between the two. If the subject comes up during interviews, I can honestly talk about the reasons why, and Ill usually say something like Ive thought about going back to finish my degree, but honestly, at this point in my career with the track record of successes I have, I cant justify the ROI on the time and expense commitment that would take. So far, thats been good enough. Cydcor has garnered a reputation for sales excellence and expertise, consistently exceeding client expectations and driving revenue . I had an answer for everything because Id checked it so thoroughly. Car sale. My last day is Monday, and as soon as I turn in my work equipment Im blocking every last customer number from my phone! I guess I believed that this couldn't happen to me -- think again. NO. Yeah, I had a 1-on-1* with this offices HR person, and when I asked what a typical day was like, it was 100% interviews & emailing candidates. If you think it will get traction and have the connections you can run it high up the chain. Hey, what happened to the other people that interviewed the day before? Got one from Possible scam? The last thing an admin wants to hear is, "So what do you guys do here?" Plus, networking contacts are often useful down the line. Its a very accepted and well-known thing. It is like my brain memorises all the data and just sees what it expects to be there. Some people do an ROI on a degree and decide it doesnt make sense for them higher education has gotten extremely expensive, which is a real, practical concern that goes beyond lack off encouragement, insecurity naysayers, etc. Feel free to share your story on "Slave Circle" Youtube channel to spread awareness of the predatory nature of these MLMs! Which I found odd since I am out there making money for the company.They send people onbusiness trips, and instead of footing the bill for even a cheap hotel they stayed at another employee's home to save the company money. 11. https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/818nwg/any_excydcor_people_out_there/. Now I know the proper etiquette, which makes me a better person. Most people in my industry have at least a bachelor, many have MBAs. They say they are holding the first check that way you will have one when you leave. Pronoun sets though why not be proud while were at it! I felt nothing but pity for the poor girl that tried to 'train' us. Actually it doesnt have to cost a lot of money. I did the FIRST one with my fly open accidentally and they called me back- which should have been the biggest red flag of them all but how was I to know if they noticed or not?!?! ADHD doesnt super help, and I can go through something multiple times and still miss things. You will see Cydcor on American Greed some day. Ripoff Report | Complaints Reviews Scams Lawsuits Frauds Reported. I mean, who knows if things might change in the future? They should not have to spend their time and money getting a degree to shut down breakroom mockery nor to assuage a normal feeling of human insecurity it is a bit patronizing to assume that theyve not yet done so due to lack of confidence or lack of encouragement. I then find out that I am starting at the same exact level as all of these cool cats hanging in the room -- I'm thinking what the hell is going on here? The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Again, its not asking them to revert. No! Funny how that fault went away the day I quit. So annoying! As stated in blog articles and reviews about Cydcor, they do indeed have a secretary at the front literally calling applicants for interviews as you're in the CEO's office interviewing (you can hear the pitch they gave you over the phone word for word through the wall). Sorry, that sucks. Their disadvantage was that if they wanted to move to a different job requiring similar skills, they might encounter managers who wouldnt even consider them as equal too, much less better than, candidates with degrees in completely irrelevant subjects and little or no experience. OP1, with a MLM on your resume, employers may question your integrity. Break ties with all who might want you to quit.#13 Yes. Cydcor- a pyramid selling scheme with franchises across the country to hide its identity. I dont think that would be the most considerate way to do things. More importantly, OP if it bothers you, please look into going back to school. (Make sure they are that type of person; my brain will read over things so I am usually not the best person.) How best to approach it? It is usually minor stuff, but still And this is not a reflection on his writing skills. they would always reply Funny how we ended up in the same place yet I have 1/3rd the student debt.. ANY personal information shared in the break room by an HR hack is grossly inappropriate. During my short experience with them, I had witnessed another Temple "intern" as well as two Penn "interns" waste their precious time with this bogus pyramid scheme (they're still involved, unfortunately). Well, in one of the sentences he had used the wrong pronoun! Thats the business model. Among the many hats I wear I also write a lot of recommendation letters for students who are applying to colleges and universities, scholarships, and other activities such as internships and job opportunities. Someone coming in with a fresh set of eyes can check if the overall results make sense, if they match other sources, if the code looks right, if important control values are correct, etc. This job cuts you off emotionally and is frustrating to the point that you don't realize how much you are cut off in this pyramid scheme and if an employee quits essential they are a black eye and are normalnever referenced or are ridiculed in private. One day I happened to be in his classroom and he stepped out briefly. Working retail sucks in nearly every way, but it produces a paycheck. Perhaps this is overly optimistic of me, but as someone who works in higher ed in the US, Id be a little surprised if someone who works in student affairs or admissions today had zero familiarity with people using they/them pronouns. But it is retail hours. It is incredibly helpful in identifying awkward phrasing, duplicate words, incomplete sentences, etc. So again, thank you for sharing, kind stranger online. People nearly always mean well, but its important to me and many others to have control over the way were perceived. I bring this up because as a selectively out person I read this and thought oh god oh god please ask first, accompanied by a little pit in my stomach. Going back to school is not always necessary or even an option. Read what Corporate Trainer employee has to say about working at Cydcor: I worked for a subsidiary of Cydcor for half a year doing door to door sales and I can confidentl. Our field lends itself very well to being riddled with mistakes. For powerpoints I print notes pages with 6 or 8 slides per page. Full benefits, higher pay then my last real job (and an actual paycheck in comparison to Cydcor), nice cushy office, nice people, laid back environment. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. It makes you the smart one for getting into your career for free. If you have been scammed by Wrinardo or any of his buddies I encourage you to contact the Alabama Attorney General's Office and the BBB! About 15 minutes later I knowingly asked my boss what the overall company's name was (because these "independently owned" offices were actually ICLs), and he said the word Cydcor very quietly, just as I expected. Phoenix Solution is part of Cydcor umbrella and is infamous for its malicious pyramid structured business. She better not be getting the same pay! Id be concerned that someone pulling out personal info to entertain this nosy group and be the center of attention might have trouble drawing a line. I love Grammerly for general typos. On top of that you have to pay for your own gas while you drive around all day long going door to door cold calling. Good luck. But I should be thankful, because I probably would've wasted a couple more weeks working there before I was fed up completely with their bullshit. Kind of ironic. I had been tricked into becoming a door-to-door salesman. OP3, you have my full empathy and my utmost respect. Its not feasible, really, with short deadlines and a lot of material, but can be a useful tip. If the position is not something that would work for the person then they really didn't fail on their own, they were assisted by this unethical recruiting practice. But if its a recruiter outside of my industry who is advertising a random job that has nothing to do with my background, I ignore. I thought "Wow this is cool, I do this door-to-door crap for a year or 2 and then I can pay other people to do it for me". This student might have a different name on their transcript and other documentation as well, so maximum clarity is a good idea in a high stakes document like this. b the ones where the input is most likely to be wrong, based on my experience: Again, taking forecasting as the example, our office in Vienna usually reported salaries with an error rate of 5-10%. Hiring needs to change as well as higher education. REBUTTAL BOX
Most top talent trickled out of the company in the next years. It is about there student s convenience, not the recommender. They all seemed to have ADHD, were younger than me (Id guess 18 years old, most of them were only high school graduates if that), and I was the only one writing anything down or paying attention to the CEOs lecture (it was my first day, I guess they give the same lecture every day cuz the turnaround is so terrible). 4. The question you are asking is not Would you like to revert but What name are you using in your application materials and How do you want to be referred to? And presumably you are not asking for your convenience, but to make sure that your recommendation is as useful to them as possible. Both techniques make you really look at whats there, and doesnt let your brain fill in what it knows should be there. so anything other than block text needs extra scrutiny. BEST OF LUCK! Id say its definitely worth clarifying with the student, though, since some people who specify two proud sets like that mean I want you to use they/them but I can live with he/him and others mean I want you to use he/him but I can live with they/them. If you had to put their name on your resume, Id tell you to get out today if you could do it without plunging yourself into crisis (i.e., if you have a safety net with your family). All rights reserved. You were called into an interview, and basically bullied into a job. *Side note, did you have to do THREE 1-on-1 coaching meetings with other people in the company every week? My LinkedIn profile states Im not looking to move employers. I find printing the document is a very good way of changing the appearance, but if you dont want to waste paper, simply copying and pasting the text from powerpoint to word (for example) will help. Im sorry you were affected by what seems like someones pathetic attempt to make themselves feel superior. We all have different life experiences and that needs to be respected. Depending on what sort of mistakes are happening, that could be a useful tool. I believe that the group I was in fits many of the above criteria. You dont need an audience either. It was less than I made by a lot and I was done. Youre too familiar with it. This is super reassuring to hear, thank you! There may also be considerations with their legal or deadname being used on application materials, so you might end up needing something like Susan (he/they, formerly Jason) at the start of the letter. YOU DONT NEED A SALESMAN TO GET PHONE SERVICE FOR YOUR BUSINESS, YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF ONLINE. Work like a dog door to door 10 hours. Think car dealerships, furniture/ appliance stores windows and flooring places. They usually activate their base pretty quickly in the face of criticism. I would definitely speak to someone above her. Most people realize the ethical issues with a few weeks on the job and bail. No ring on her finger, she was physically attractive, and their chemistry was just yuck. #2 Is it possible to put together a standard checklist that you can reuse? So, Id show the 3.5% number to my boss, hed say oh, you didnt adjust for inflation in those numbers, and Id update the chart but not the title. I wasn't paid for those 3 weeks I was there (I was promised "training pay" as well, which I never received) until I had already left the company, which was money I needed to survive. And then they promoted someone without either of those degrees. A few years ago someone in my department made a coding mistake in a query that meant we sent the wrong data in a situation where that ended up costing us actual money, and since then weve set up formal QA/QC processes for nearly everything that leaves our department. Other commenters have raised other valid concerns about this particular issue, but admission staff have to look at literally thousands of letters of rec every application cycle, so I wouldnt sweat the negative impact aspect of this. Be proud of the work you do and how you got to where you are. But to start disparaging education and educated people as a result both takes it too far and misses the point. I agree that the LW should reach out to student to see how they want to be addressed. Theyve mastered how to prey on young people with entrepreneurial spirit. Signing up people for things that are not necessarily to their benefit. Yours may as well. changing the styling on the sections Ive finished proofing so that I have a clear view of where I need to focus next (e.g. During the recession around 2011 and lasting several years, I was constantly job searching even while I was employed. Please update us as you go along. This reminds me of my friend who went to med school, think a John Hopkins equivalent, and whenever their peers got anotty about how they attended JH for undergrad, or Harvard, Yale, etc. Ithank you. it's like he's a scientologist, a part of a cult or something telling me "capitalism is going to leave me behind" as if the boss forcing him to stay at cydcor had told him that every day for years. Someone on her team got a talking-to after they made so many asshole comments that she suggested to the team lead she transition out of it so someone whose credentials met [asshole]s needs could be added, and the team lead told the asshole that she was far more valuable to the project than he was and, given the choice, he was going to keep her before him. Apparently, he got snagged into working for the same company as a recent grad in the 2002 recession. GroupMs technology mission is two-fold: Use our scale to provide tested and effective products for clients and create a unified technology and data approach that helps brands deliver the future of media today. Everyones experience will be different, but normalizing they pronounces, as well as specifying ones pronouns even and especially when one uses the defaults, is an easy and helpful action for allies to take. I had to fix so many words in this post because of flamin autocorrect! Thanks for taking the time to read. I left after Day 2 when I saw my trainer practically bully a storeowner who appeared to be a recent immigrant with limited English into switching her service. Im a professional editor. Yes, the important thing is for the application materials to be consistent. I have to be honest. If that doesnt violate any confidentiality rules. Think reign vs rain, right vs write. If Id known Id then be hounded by the press, have to sit through court appearances, be questioned about every little detail of what happened every day by forensic accountants.okay probably still would have done it but Id have got some better stress medications first. A program that benefits the consumer, assures them of complete satisfaction and confidence when doing business with a member business. I have a friend who is they/she, because they prefer they, but realize that many people are going to default to either he or she, so they want to make sure that people realize she is the better choice, if they is too difficult. Word has a read aloud feature in its review menu. If you are worried about people asking for pay or title relating to education, you actually do probably need to tread carefully. LW#1 take any other job to tide you over while looking for something more permanent. You can create a path when you do these things. It all clicked together. 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